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We are aware that wiki is not so complete but, last month wiki installation page are a crap ton of changes.. The wiki page tries to include so many information.. but it lacks of good structure, neither hav a good requirements page | We are aware that wiki is not so complete but, last month wiki installation page are a crap ton of changes.. The wiki page tries to include so many information.. but it lacks of good structure, neither hav a good requirements page | ||
So then '''I separated the requirements detailed''' to a new wiki page, | So then '''I separated the requirements detailed''' to a new wiki page, https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Requirements, with all details and reduce significatively the installation page details to only RAM and SPACE storage.. | ||
Later added a section in https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Alpine_newbie_install_manual# | Later added a section in https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Alpine_newbie_install_manual#Ways_to_install_Alpine_listed_by_architectures so then '''users that need different methods of install does not need to crap''' with over information the only wiki installation page.. (over information) '''I mean over sentences of "for this ARM flafour go to here and here and for this toy go to here"''' | ||
'''Last then i reduced rest of info to improved independent pages of each one!''' | '''Last then i reduced rest of info to improved independent pages of each one!''' | ||
Contributions must be focused in independent cases and listed in how to and tutorial wiki page .. so then i can check and later listed at new users tutorial pages. | Contributions must be focused in independent cases and listed in how to and tutorial wiki page .. so then i can check and later listed at new users tutorial pages. | ||
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'''''About changes and recent diff from SB1 June and July changes..'''.'' | '''''About changes and recent diff from SB1 June and July changes..'''.'' | ||
'''Checksum command is a extra optional info''': first note are the checksum command to verify.. only takes in consideration linux ( | '''Checksum command is a extra optional info''': first note are the checksum command to verify.. only takes in consideration linux (ovbiusly will be so "rare" if not) and win! there' is no more OS in the world? there's no MAC or FreeBSD? is clear Alpine need minimal linux knowledge so are nonsense try to catch win users without minimal linux knowledge.. specific pages for that must be done! not in main install pages! | ||
'''Boot of external devices''' depends of each computer device so each wiki page cases of architecture installation must added its own information | '''Boot of external devices''' depends of each computer device so each wiki page cases of architecture installation must added its own information | ||
'''also the use Sb1 erased/changed so many information''' and does not property posted in any other page .. (i mean setup alpine or similar) all the info was grouped and pasted in main installation page.. oversized the target of.. the good examples of wiki pages must be like: | '''also the use Sb1 erased/changed so many information''' and does not property posted in any other page .. (i mean setup alpine or similar) all the info was grouped and pasted in main installation page.. oversized the target of.. the good examples of wiki pages must be like: https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Alpine_Linux:FAQ#What_is_the_difference_between_.27sys.27.2C_.27data.27.2C_and_.27diskless.27_when_running_.27setup-alpine.27_or_.27setup-disk.27.3F makes references to install page as further deep information available.. but this page as i said was changed significatively.. | ||
--[[User:mckaygerhard|mckaygerhard]] July 2020 | --[[User:mckaygerhard|mckaygerhard]] July 2020 | ||
* Sorry, it's problematic when your edits **replace** concise pages with your "alpine newbie" series style. (And that repeatedly.) For a readers looking for information, these are a quite much convoluted agglomeration of multiple, unmaintainable pages with much overlapping and duplicate information and do not refrain from opinionated jargon. | |||
For example, it does not makes much sense to move the image verification into a [[Requirements]] page that is immense and convoluted with unmaintanable tables that for example only resemble statistics about the currently downloadable images, and further having parts of it duplicated in a plethora "Alpine_newbie" recipes, (for readers to follow to get lost in, without getting much needed overview and information about the options to be able to arrive at well informed decisions). | |||
=> So there are good reasons why your changes were reverted (12:40, 12 December 2020 "Reverting as of https://lists.alpinelinux.org/~alpine/devel/<20201002143513.yco7vwx2ci3lqezm@wolfsden.cz> Second time user Mckaygerhard pulled stunt on this page. (Aug.13/19 & Jul.12/20)) | |||
Revision as of 23:30, 29 April 2021
New Discussions
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Resolved Discussions
Focused users and edits
We are aware that wiki is not so complete but, last month wiki installation page are a crap ton of changes.. The wiki page tries to include so many information.. but it lacks of good structure, neither hav a good requirements page
So then I separated the requirements detailed to a new wiki page, https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Requirements, with all details and reduce significatively the installation page details to only RAM and SPACE storage..
Later added a section in https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Alpine_newbie_install_manual#Ways_to_install_Alpine_listed_by_architectures so then users that need different methods of install does not need to crap with over information the only wiki installation page.. (over information) I mean over sentences of "for this ARM flafour go to here and here and for this toy go to here"
Last then i reduced rest of info to improved independent pages of each one! Contributions must be focused in independent cases and listed in how to and tutorial wiki page .. so then i can check and later listed at new users tutorial pages.
All of this new pages will be improved in next days. Currently information was slpitted and improved to reduce the oversized installation page!
About changes and recent diff from SB1 June and July changes...
Checksum command is a extra optional info: first note are the checksum command to verify.. only takes in consideration linux (ovbiusly will be so "rare" if not) and win! there' is no more OS in the world? there's no MAC or FreeBSD? is clear Alpine need minimal linux knowledge so are nonsense try to catch win users without minimal linux knowledge.. specific pages for that must be done! not in main install pages!
Boot of external devices depends of each computer device so each wiki page cases of architecture installation must added its own information
also the use Sb1 erased/changed so many information and does not property posted in any other page .. (i mean setup alpine or similar) all the info was grouped and pasted in main installation page.. oversized the target of.. the good examples of wiki pages must be like: https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Alpine_Linux:FAQ#What_is_the_difference_between_.27sys.27.2C_.27data.27.2C_and_.27diskless.27_when_running_.27setup-alpine.27_or_.27setup-disk.27.3F makes references to install page as further deep information available.. but this page as i said was changed significatively..
--mckaygerhard July 2020
* Sorry, it's problematic when your edits **replace** concise pages with your "alpine newbie" series style. (And that repeatedly.) For a readers looking for information, these are a quite much convoluted agglomeration of multiple, unmaintainable pages with much overlapping and duplicate information and do not refrain from opinionated jargon.
For example, it does not makes much sense to move the image verification into a Requirements page that is immense and convoluted with unmaintanable tables that for example only resemble statistics about the currently downloadable images, and further having parts of it duplicated in a plethora "Alpine_newbie" recipes, (for readers to follow to get lost in, without getting much needed overview and information about the options to be able to arrive at well informed decisions).
=> So there are good reasons why your changes were reverted (12:40, 12 December 2020 "Reverting as of https://lists.alpinelinux.org/~alpine/devel/<20201002143513.yco7vwx2ci3lqezm@wolfsden.cz> Second time user Mckaygerhard pulled stunt on this page. (Aug.13/19 & Jul.12/20))