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The desktop environment in Alpine have two focus: '''official desktop for alpine as Xfce4''' and '''community contributed desktops as Mate, LXDE''' or as special case the very bloated Gnome.
The desktop environment in Alpine have two main flavors: '''official desktop for alpine as Xfce4 and LXDE''' and '''community contributed desktops as Mate, AWM''' also have more options such as special case the very bloated [[Gnome Setup|Gnome]] (that currently recent version uses [[Wayland]]).


The popularity of desktop computers and laptops has been increasing BUT that's a only false behavior.. there's two factors that indicates that:
Please, if find something not easy to understand about integration of the variety of programs, take in consideration further reading at the end of this page to understand important notes about [[Alpine_newbie_desktops#Behavior_of_Desktop_Environments_in_Linux|Behavior of Desktop Environments in Linux]]
# Because Linux desktop distributions are not usually distributed by retail sale, there are no sales numbers that indicate the number of users. Desktop computers and phones are ruled by M$ and Google so far.
# The main effors are focused in server and many desktops have programs that never find a end in development like Kppp or Firefox OS, or GTKpod; those are projects that works only with deprecated not used in time devices or machines.
 
Taking in consideration that the North American-based web-measurement methods produce high Win-like desktop OS numbers and ignore the widespread use of Linux in other parts of the world, no single official Linux desktop exists and all the integration are focused in too many RedHat proposed practices (that ends in M$-like things like <nowiki>systemd</nowiki>.
 
==== Why all of this explanation? ====
 
You as user will find some very '''significant differences when integrated some desktops or try to install many desktops programs from source upstream''', a very important thing to take in consideration. But '''"Ah ok, but why that? why not a automatic default etc etc..?"''' well [[Alpine newbie#Feature_Differences|as explained in first section of this page]] the focus of the system are efficiency, performance and maximum control of the system, not an automatic behavior not well knowed.
 
As pointed in first paragraph, Gnome it's a example of this.. it's used the <nowiki>wayland</nowiki> service and widely integrated with <nowiki>systemd</nowiki>, and Alpine does not use <nowiki>systemd</nowiki>. That it's a example why Desktop environment are so difficult to adopt in Linux world and obviously to configured in Alpine systems.


'''So you can choose from those options:'''
'''So you can choose from those options or follow the next sugested [[Alpine Newbies Openbox Window Manager|Alpine Newbies: Xorg and Openbox]]''' page.


= Alpine Desktops: Official Desktop =
= Alpine Desktops: Official Desktop =


There's two official supported desktops, [[Alpine Newbies XFCE Desktop Environment|XFCE Desktop Environment]] as Main and [[Alpine Newbies LXDE Desktop Environment|LXDE Desktop]] as optional, that obviously make also optional the [[Alpine Newbies Openbox Window Manager|Openbox Window Manager]].
There's two official supported desktops, [[Alpine Newbies XFCE Desktop Environment|XFCE Desktop Environment]] and [[Alpine Newbies LXDE Desktop Environment|LXDE Desktop]], that last make also optional the [[Alpine Newbies Openbox Window Manager|Openbox Window Manager]].


# [[Alpine Newbies Openbox Window Manager|Alpine Newbies: Xorg and Openbox]]
# [[Alpine Newbies XFCE Desktop Environment]]
# [[Alpine Newbies XFCE Desktop Environment]]
# [[Alpine Newbies LXDE Desktop Environment]]
# [[Alpine Newbies LXDE Desktop Environment]]
# [[Alpine Newbies Openbox Window Manager]]


= Alpine Desktops: Community Contributions =
= Alpine Desktops: Community Contributions =


There's some contributions dekstops made available using the Community Repository Packages, those are not officially supported (those that make contribution are the ones that support those desktops):
There's some contributions desktop available using the Community Repository Packages like the [Alpine Newbies MATE Desktop Environment|MATE Desktop environment]] due some others need Wayland that has some compatibility problems:


* [[Alpine Newbies MATE Desktop Environment]]
# [[Alpine Newbies MATE Desktop Environment]]
# [[Awesome(wm)_Setup|Awesome Window Manager]]


= Alpine Desktops: Upstream and external ones =
= Alpine Desktops: Upstream and external ones =


All of the original upstream desktop can be installed by the traditional *nix-like method by downloading the sources from origin and compiling it.
All of the original upstream desktop can be installed by the traditional Unix-like method by downloading and compiling it:


* [[Alpine Newbies LXQT Desktop Environment]]
# [[Dwm|Dynamic Window Manager for X]]
# [[Alpine LXQT Desktop Environment]]


= Alpine Desktops: multimedia =
= Alpine Desktops: multimedia =


* [[Alpine multimedia for users]]
After have your preferred desktop you can also improvement to your desktop with:
* [[Alpine multimedia for editing and amateurs]]
 
* [[Alpine multimedia for users]] (Audio and video multimedia related software and setup)
* [[Alpine multimedia for editing and amateurs]] (Amateur related such editing and converting tools)


= Alpine Desktops: emulation and gamming =
= Alpine Desktops: emulation and gamming =
Alpine are capable of provide a good platform to play games and enjoy:


* [[Alpine games packages and options]]
* [[Alpine games packages and options]]
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= Behavior of Desktop Environments in Linux  =
The popularity of Linux in desktop computers and laptops has been increasing BUT that's a only false behavior.. there's two factors that indicates that:
# Because Linux desktop distributions are not usually distributed by retail sale, there are no sales numbers that indicate the number of users. Desktop computers and phones are ruled by M$ and Google so far.
# The main offers are focused in server and many desktops have programs that never find a end in development like Kppp or Firefox OS, or GTKpod; those are projects that works only with deprecated not used in time devices or machines.
You as user will find some very '''significant differences when integrated some desktops or try to install many desktops programs from source upstream''', a very important thing to take in consideration. But '''"Ah ok, but why that? why not a automatic default etc etc..?"''' because the focus of the system are efficiency, performance and maximum control of the system, not an automatic behavior not well knowed.
Taking in consideration that the North American-based web-measurement methods produce high Win-like desktop OS numbers and ignore the widespread use of Linux in other parts of the world, no single official Linux desktop exists and all the integration are focused in too many RedHat proposed practices (that ends in M$-like things like <code>systemd</code>.
As pointed in first paragraph, '''Gnome it's a example of this.. it's used the <code>wayland</code> service and widely integrated with <code>systemd</code>, and Alpine does not use <code>systemd</code> that comes something in compatibility issues'''. That it's a example why Desktop environment are so difficult to adopt in Linux world and obviously to configured in Alpine systems.


= See Also =
= See Also =
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# [[Alpine newbie developer]]
# [[Alpine newbie developer]]
# [[Alpine newbie lammers]]
# [[Alpine newbie lammers]]
[[Category:Desktop]]
[[Category:Multimedia]]

Revision as of 16:55, 13 August 2019

The desktop environment in Alpine have two main flavors: official desktop for alpine as Xfce4 and LXDE and community contributed desktops as Mate, AWM also have more options such as special case the very bloated Gnome (that currently recent version uses Wayland).

Please, if find something not easy to understand about integration of the variety of programs, take in consideration further reading at the end of this page to understand important notes about Behavior of Desktop Environments in Linux

So you can choose from those options or follow the next sugested Alpine Newbies: Xorg and Openbox page.

Alpine Desktops: Official Desktop

There's two official supported desktops, XFCE Desktop Environment and LXDE Desktop, that last make also optional the Openbox Window Manager.

  1. Alpine Newbies XFCE Desktop Environment
  2. Alpine Newbies LXDE Desktop Environment
  3. Alpine Newbies Openbox Window Manager

Alpine Desktops: Community Contributions

There's some contributions desktop available using the Community Repository Packages like the [Alpine Newbies MATE Desktop Environment|MATE Desktop environment]] due some others need Wayland that has some compatibility problems:

  1. Alpine Newbies MATE Desktop Environment
  2. Awesome Window Manager

Alpine Desktops: Upstream and external ones

All of the original upstream desktop can be installed by the traditional Unix-like method by downloading and compiling it:

  1. Dynamic Window Manager for X
  2. Alpine LXQT Desktop Environment

Alpine Desktops: multimedia

After have your preferred desktop you can also improvement to your desktop with:

Alpine Desktops: emulation and gamming

Alpine are capable of provide a good platform to play games and enjoy:

Tutorial series

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Alpine newbie apk packages Alpine Newbies: Xorg and Openbox

Behavior of Desktop Environments in Linux

The popularity of Linux in desktop computers and laptops has been increasing BUT that's a only false behavior.. there's two factors that indicates that:

  1. Because Linux desktop distributions are not usually distributed by retail sale, there are no sales numbers that indicate the number of users. Desktop computers and phones are ruled by M$ and Google so far.
  2. The main offers are focused in server and many desktops have programs that never find a end in development like Kppp or Firefox OS, or GTKpod; those are projects that works only with deprecated not used in time devices or machines.

You as user will find some very significant differences when integrated some desktops or try to install many desktops programs from source upstream, a very important thing to take in consideration. But "Ah ok, but why that? why not a automatic default etc etc..?" because the focus of the system are efficiency, performance and maximum control of the system, not an automatic behavior not well knowed.

Taking in consideration that the North American-based web-measurement methods produce high Win-like desktop OS numbers and ignore the widespread use of Linux in other parts of the world, no single official Linux desktop exists and all the integration are focused in too many RedHat proposed practices (that ends in M$-like things like systemd.

As pointed in first paragraph, Gnome it's a example of this.. it's used the wayland service and widely integrated with systemd, and Alpine does not use systemd that comes something in compatibility issues. That it's a example why Desktop environment are so difficult to adopt in Linux world and obviously to configured in Alpine systems.

See Also

  1. Alpine newbie
  2. Alpine newbie install manual
  3. Alpine newbie apk packages
  4. Alpine newbie desktops
  5. Alpine newbie developer
  6. Alpine newbie lammers