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About [[Installing Alpine on Compact Flash]] and [[Installing Alpine on USB]], I think those two should be merged, steps are thesame.
--[[User:K0gen|K0gen]] 20:06, 25 February 2010 (UTC)


== Booting from ISO ==
== Focused users and edits ==


We are aware that wiki is not so complete but, last month wiki installation page are a crap ton of changes.. The wiki page tries to include so many information.. but it lacks of good structure, neither hav a good requirements page


::::: I've given up. Couldn't make the intended setup work with my meager Linux knowledge. I did find a page here at the wiki where under the heading [http://www.alpinelinux.org/w/index.php?title=Replacing_non-Alpine_Linux_with_Alpine_remotely| 'Install Alpine cd-rom image on hard disk'] a somewhat related solution is provided. But that involves extracting the distro files from the iso, something that [http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/| unetbootin] does rather in a rather more easy and straightforward way -- at least, that's what I used to get Alpine to boot from a USB pendrive (plenty of recipes for that around). However, I still believe a simple 'boot from iso' procedure would do wonders for Alpine, so I'm leaving this here for future reference. Should anyone disagree, do feel free to delete it. [[User:Pnin|Pnin]] 05:43, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
So then '''I separated the requirements detailed''' to a new wiki page, https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Requirements, with all details and reduce significatively the installation page details to only RAM and SPACE storage..  


Later added a section in https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Alpine_newbie_install_manual#Ways_to_install_Alpine_listed_by_architectures so then '''users that need different methods of install does not need to crap''' with over information the only wiki installation page.. (over information) '''I mean over sentences of "for this ARM flafour go to here and here and for this toy go to here"'''


Current system is a 2.8 Prescott Pentium IV with 2MB RAM, booting from a 1GB CF plugged into the IDE controller, with an attached 500GB SATA HDD for data. When I tried to install Alpine from the LiveCD to this card, which is listed as a hard drive by the BIOS, it complained of insufficient space. Fair enough. Next I tried to follow [http://www.pendrivelinux.com/boot-multiple-iso-from-usb-via-grub2-using-linux/| this recipe] to boot from Alpine 2.1.4 iso; at the end you find this tip:
'''Last then i reduced rest of info to improved independent pages of each one!''' 
Contributions must be focused in independent cases and listed in how to and tutorial wiki page .. so then i can check and later listed at new users tutorial pages.


:''Adding an Unlisted ISO: To try ISO Files that are not yet listed, use the existing menuentry examples in /boot/grub/grub.cfg and append any options normally found in the distributions syslinux.cfg file on the "append" line to the "linux" line of the menu entry.''
All of this new pages will be improved in next days. Currently information was slpitted and improved to reduce the oversized installation page!


So I downloaded the latest Alpine iso via wget and modified the relevant ''grub.cfg'' lines to:
'''''About changes and recent diff from SB1 June and July changes..'''.''  


linux (loop)/boot/grsec initrd=/boot/grsec.gz iso-scan/filename=/alpine214.iso alpine_dev=usbdisk:vfat modules=loop,cramfs,sd-mod,usb-storage quiet
'''Checksum command is a extra optional info''': first note are the checksum command to verify.. only takes in consideration linux (ovbiusly will be so "rare" if not) and win! there' is no more OS in the world? there's no MAC or FreeBSD? is clear Alpine need minimal linux knowledge so are nonsense try to catch win users without minimal linux knowledge.. specific pages for that must be done! not in main install pages!
initrd (loop)/boot/grsec.gz


All I got when I tried to boot this was the following error:
'''Boot of external devices''' depends of each computer device so each wiki page cases of architecture installation must added its own information


'''Alpine Init 2.1.2'''
'''also the use Sb1 erased/changed so many information''' and does not property posted in any other page .. (i mean setup alpine or similar) all the info was grouped and pasted in main installation page.. oversized the target of.. the good examples of wiki pages must be like:  https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Alpine_Linux:FAQ#What_is_the_difference_between_.27sys.27.2C_.27data.27.2C_and_.27diskless.27_when_running_.27setup-alpine.27_or_.27setup-disk.27.3F makes references to install page as further deep information available.. but this page as i said was changed significatively.. 
'''/init: eval: line 1: syntax error: unexpected "("'''
'''kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init!'''
'''Pid: 1, comm: init Not tainted 2.6.35.10-grsec #1-Alpine'''
[...]


I must say all went well with the Linux Mint 10.10 and the TinyCore isos, into which I'm able to boot with no issues. Anyone care to advise?


[[User:Pnin|Pnin]]  
--[[User:mckaygerhard|mckaygerhard]] July 2020


== Suggestions ==


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About [[Installing Alpine on Compact Flash]] and [[Installing Alpine on USB]], I think those two should be merged, steps are thesame.
 
--[[User:K0gen|K0gen]] 20:06, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 
Hi, that "linux (loop)/boot/...." thing looks funny to me.
 
According to: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
 
Could you try:
 
set root=(loop0)
linux /boot/grsec initrd=/boot/grsec.gz iso-scan/filename=/alpine214.iso alpine_dev=usbdisk:vfat modules=loop,cramfs,sd-mod,usb-storage quiet
initrd /boot/grsec.gz
 
[[User:Nangel|Nangel]] 13:49, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 
 
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Hi & thanks, Nangel.
 
Tried that and got this error:
 
error: no such disk.
error: you need to load the kernel first.
press any key to continue...
 
Pressing any key returns to the grub menu. Maybe the full ''grub.cfg'' entry should be reported here:
 
menuentry "Alpine Linux" {
loopback loop /alpine214.iso
linux (loop)/boot/grsec initrd=/boot/grsec.gz iso-scan/filename=/alpine214.iso alpine_dev=usbdisk:vfat modules=loop,cramfs,sd-mod,usb-storage quiet
initrd (loop)/boot/grsec.gz
}
 
It should also be noted that the LiveCD used to perform the [http://www.pendrivelinux.com/boot-multiple-iso-from-usb-via-grub2-using-linux/| recipe] was "Linux Mint 9 LXDE", which caused Grub 1.98-1ubuntu5-1mint2 to be installed, not Grub2. And that (loop) part is present in every other successful menu entry.
 
[EDIT: Just to add that IMHO coupled with the [http://www.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Alpine_local_backup| Alpine Local Backup Utility] (lbu), booting from iso would be a killer for Alpine, making systems really easy to troubleshoot (delete local backup) and upgrade (replace iso).]
 
[[User:Pnin|Pnin]] 14:34, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 
 
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Revision as of 19:35, 12 July 2020

Focused users and edits

We are aware that wiki is not so complete but, last month wiki installation page are a crap ton of changes.. The wiki page tries to include so many information.. but it lacks of good structure, neither hav a good requirements page

So then I separated the requirements detailed to a new wiki page, https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Requirements, with all details and reduce significatively the installation page details to only RAM and SPACE storage..

Later added a section in https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Alpine_newbie_install_manual#Ways_to_install_Alpine_listed_by_architectures so then users that need different methods of install does not need to crap with over information the only wiki installation page.. (over information) I mean over sentences of "for this ARM flafour go to here and here and for this toy go to here"

Last then i reduced rest of info to improved independent pages of each one!  Contributions must be focused in independent cases and listed in how to and tutorial wiki page .. so then i can check and later listed at new users tutorial pages.

All of this new pages will be improved in next days. Currently information was slpitted and improved to reduce the oversized installation page!

About changes and recent diff from SB1 June and July changes...

Checksum command is a extra optional info: first note are the checksum command to verify.. only takes in consideration linux (ovbiusly will be so "rare" if not) and win! there' is no more OS in the world? there's no MAC or FreeBSD? is clear Alpine need minimal linux knowledge so are nonsense try to catch win users without minimal linux knowledge.. specific pages for that must be done! not in main install pages!

Boot of external devices depends of each computer device so each wiki page cases of architecture installation must added its own information

also the use Sb1 erased/changed so many information and does not property posted in any other page .. (i mean setup alpine or similar) all the info was grouped and pasted in main installation page.. oversized the target of.. the good examples of wiki pages must be like:  https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Alpine_Linux:FAQ#What_is_the_difference_between_.27sys.27.2C_.27data.27.2C_and_.27diskless.27_when_running_.27setup-alpine.27_or_.27setup-disk.27.3F makes references to install page as further deep information available.. but this page as i said was changed significatively.. 


--mckaygerhard July 2020

Suggestions

About Installing Alpine on Compact Flash and Installing Alpine on USB, I think those two should be merged, steps are thesame. --K0gen 20:06, 25 February 2010 (UTC)