Talk:Sway - Revision history

Prabuanand: updated on the changes made

2025-10-15T04:19:10Z

updated on the changes made

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	:: 2. Your suggestions for different sections are very apt as they capture the objective clearly. The section names should help the reader to decide whether to read or skip the contents.		:: 2. Your suggestions for different sections are very apt as they capture the objective clearly. The section names should help the reader to decide whether to read or skip the contents.
	:: 3. I fullly agree with your views on the page title. Wiki history records every contribution and hence there's no need for pages with username in them.		:: 3. I fullly agree with your views on the page title. Wiki history records every contribution and hence there's no need for pages with username in them.
	:: 4. Your suggestion to add the reference here is quite appropriate. "Refer to the <nowiki>[[Sway customization guide\|Sway customization guide]]</nowiki> as well as the <nowiki>[[#See also\|See also]]</nowiki> section for Tips on customizing this {{ic\|config}} file." will be quite apt. Please feel to suitably rephrase the above.		:: 4. Your suggestion to add the reference here is quite appropriate. "Refer to the <nowiki>[[Sway customization guide\|Sway customization guide]]</nowiki> as well as the <nowiki>[[#See also\|See also]]</nowiki> section for Tips on customizing this {{ic\|config}} file." will be quite apt. Please feel to suitably rephrase the above. - [[User:Prabuanand\|Prabuanand]] ([[User talk:Prabuanand\|talk]]) 17:26, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
	- [[User:Prabuanand\|Prabuanand]] ([[User talk:Prabuanand\|talk]]) 17:26, 13 October 2025 (UTC)		:::Dear [[User:John3-16\|John3-16]], I have moved the contents "as is" to the [[Sway customization guide\|Sway customization guide]] page for now and added link it as discussed above. I have not added section headings for now, so as not to disturb the page too much, except for adding the introduction paragraph, see also and category. - [[User:Prabuanand\|Prabuanand]] ([[User talk:Prabuanand\|talk]]) 04:19, 15 October 2025 (UTC)

Prabuanand: removed sentence unrelated to topic

2025-10-14T08:56:07Z

removed sentence unrelated to topic

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	:: 3. I fullly agree with your views on the page title. Wiki history records every contribution and hence there's no need for pages with username in them.		:: 3. I fullly agree with your views on the page title. Wiki history records every contribution and hence there's no need for pages with username in them.
	:: 4. Your suggestion to add the reference here is quite appropriate. "Refer to the <nowiki>[[Sway customization guide\|Sway customization guide]]</nowiki> as well as the <nowiki>[[#See also\|See also]]</nowiki> section for Tips on customizing this {{ic\|config}} file." will be quite apt. Please feel to suitably rephrase the above.		:: 4. Your suggestion to add the reference here is quite appropriate. "Refer to the <nowiki>[[Sway customization guide\|Sway customization guide]]</nowiki> as well as the <nowiki>[[#See also\|See also]]</nowiki> section for Tips on customizing this {{ic\|config}} file." will be quite apt. Please feel to suitably rephrase the above.
	~~:: I generally prefer not to change the style/flow of actively maintained pages like [[Sway]], [[Raspberry Pi]] etc.~~ - [[User:Prabuanand\|Prabuanand]] ([[User talk:Prabuanand\|talk]]) 17:26, 13 October 2025 (UTC)		- [[User:Prabuanand\|Prabuanand]] ([[User talk:Prabuanand\|talk]]) 17:26, 13 October 2025 (UTC)

Prabuanand: rephrased sentence

2025-10-14T04:34:01Z

rephrased sentence

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	:: 3. I fullly agree with your views on the page title. Wiki history records every contribution and hence there's no need for pages with username in them.		:: 3. I fullly agree with your views on the page title. Wiki history records every contribution and hence there's no need for pages with username in them.
	:: 4. Your suggestion to add the reference here is quite appropriate. "Refer to the <nowiki>[[Sway customization guide\|Sway customization guide]]</nowiki> as well as the <nowiki>[[#See also\|See also]]</nowiki> section for Tips on customizing this {{ic\|config}} file." will be quite apt. Please feel to suitably rephrase the above.		:: 4. Your suggestion to add the reference here is quite appropriate. "Refer to the <nowiki>[[Sway customization guide\|Sway customization guide]]</nowiki> as well as the <nowiki>[[#See also\|See also]]</nowiki> section for Tips on customizing this {{ic\|config}} file." will be quite apt. Please feel to suitably rephrase the above.
	:: ~~Pages like [[Sway]], [[Raspberry Pi]] and [[Gnome]] are actively maintained by alpine package maintainers.~~ I generally prefer not to change the style/flow of ~~such~~ actively maintained pages. - [[User:Prabuanand\|Prabuanand]] ([[User talk:Prabuanand\|talk]]) 17:26, 13 October 2025 (UTC)		:: I generally prefer not to change the style/flow of actively maintained pages like [[Sway]], [[Raspberry Pi]] etc. - [[User:Prabuanand\|Prabuanand]] ([[User talk:Prabuanand\|talk]]) 17:26, 13 October 2025 (UTC)

Prabuanand: minor rephrasing

2025-10-14T04:30:43Z

minor rephrasing

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	:: 3. I fullly agree with your views on the page title. Wiki history records every contribution and hence there's no need for pages with username in them.		:: 3. I fullly agree with your views on the page title. Wiki history records every contribution and hence there's no need for pages with username in them.
	:: 4. Your suggestion to add the reference here is quite appropriate. "Refer to the <nowiki>[[Sway customization guide\|Sway customization guide]]</nowiki> as well as the <nowiki>[[#See also\|See also]]</nowiki> section for Tips on customizing this {{ic\|config}} file." will be quite apt. Please feel to suitably rephrase the above.		:: 4. Your suggestion to add the reference here is quite appropriate. "Refer to the <nowiki>[[Sway customization guide\|Sway customization guide]]</nowiki> as well as the <nowiki>[[#See also\|See also]]</nowiki> section for Tips on customizing this {{ic\|config}} file." will be quite apt. Please feel to suitably rephrase the above.
	:: Pages like [[Sway]],[[Raspberry Pi]] and [[Gnome]] are actively maintained by ~~certain~~ alpine ~~developers and i~~ generally do not ~~want~~ to ~~disturb their~~ style/flow. -[[User:Prabuanand\|Prabuanand]] ([[User talk:Prabuanand\|talk]]) 17:26, 13 October 2025 (UTC)		:: Pages like [[Sway]], [[Raspberry Pi]] and [[Gnome]] are actively maintained by alpine package maintainers. I generally prefer not to change the style/flow of such actively maintained pages. - [[User:Prabuanand\|Prabuanand]] ([[User talk:Prabuanand\|talk]]) 17:26, 13 October 2025 (UTC)

Prabuanand: replied to John3-16 on page name with reason

2025-10-13T17:26:12Z

replied to John3-16 on page name with reason

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	:If none of my page titles or none of my section titles are acceptable in your view, please enact the move yourself, respecting my statement about the employment of a moniker/username. Wiki content could alternatively remain as is or moved if and when further configurations for the {{ic\|config}} file were to surface in the future in this wiki e.g. in a dedicated configuration page. Regarding the useful idea of linking to dotfiles, you and others, naturally, are very welcome to add them in due course; I am not inclined to publish mine (indeed, I haven't placed them online) nor to seek some. Thank you again for your extensive support of the Alpine Linux wiki. [[User:John3-16\|John3-16]] ([[User talk:John3-16\|talk]]) 04:28, 13 October 2025 (UTC)		:If none of my page titles or none of my section titles are acceptable in your view, please enact the move yourself, respecting my statement about the employment of a moniker/username. Wiki content could alternatively remain as is or moved if and when further configurations for the {{ic\|config}} file were to surface in the future in this wiki e.g. in a dedicated configuration page. Regarding the useful idea of linking to dotfiles, you and others, naturally, are very welcome to add them in due course; I am not inclined to publish mine (indeed, I haven't placed them online) nor to seek some. Thank you again for your extensive support of the Alpine Linux wiki. [[User:John3-16\|John3-16]] ([[User talk:John3-16\|talk]]) 04:28, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
			:: Dear [[User:John3-16\|John3-16]], Thanks for considering the suggestion to place the detailed guide in it's own standalone page.
			:: 1. The page title that came to my mind on that day itself was "Sway customization guide" to differentiate it from the regular configuration. This way the intent of the page is captured and the choice is left to the reader. In few other pages like [[Installation]] and [[Raspberry Pi]], we have used the same root word i.e custom/customize.
			:: 2. Your suggestions for different sections are very apt as they capture the objective clearly. The section names should help the reader to decide whether to read or skip the contents.
			:: 3. I fullly agree with your views on the page title. Wiki history records every contribution and hence there's no need for pages with username in them.
			:: 4. Your suggestion to add the reference here is quite appropriate. "Refer to the <nowiki>[[Sway customization guide\|Sway customization guide]]</nowiki> as well as the <nowiki>[[#See also\|See also]]</nowiki> section for Tips on customizing this {{ic\|config}} file." will be quite apt. Please feel to suitably rephrase the above.
			:: Pages like [[Sway]],[[Raspberry Pi]] and [[Gnome]] are actively maintained by certain alpine developers and i generally do not want to disturb their style/flow. -[[User:Prabuanand\|Prabuanand]] ([[User talk:Prabuanand\|talk]]) 17:26, 13 October 2025 (UTC)

John3-16: Re new section request

2025-10-13T04:28:27Z

Re new section request

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	Dear [[User:John3-16\|John3-16]], Thanks for the [[Sway#Quickstart_-_config_File\|detailed guide]] to configure sway for users coming from traditional DE's like [[Xfce]]. You may want to consider moving this content to a new page with a suitable title and link it back here. This is also a very good candidate to be added as a standalone entry in [[Tutorials_and_Howtos]] with so much useful information. Also consider adding links to sample dotfiles.(if available).		Dear [[User:John3-16\|John3-16]], Thanks for the [[Sway#Quickstart_-_config_File\|detailed guide]] to configure sway for users coming from traditional DE's like [[Xfce]]. You may want to consider moving this content to a new page with a suitable title and link it back here. This is also a very good candidate to be added as a standalone entry in [[Tutorials_and_Howtos]] with so much useful information. Also consider adding links to sample dotfiles.(if available).
	Separately, I have also been thinking of ways to capture sample dotfiles here in wiki using templates, but not been successful yet. -[[User:Prabuanand\|Prabuanand]] ([[User talk:Prabuanand\|talk]]) 03:18, 10 October 2025 (UTC)		Separately, I have also been thinking of ways to capture sample dotfiles here in wiki using templates, but not been successful yet. -[[User:Prabuanand\|Prabuanand]] ([[User talk:Prabuanand\|talk]]) 03:18, 10 October 2025 (UTC)

			:Dear [[User:Prabuanand\|Prabuanand]], thank you for appreciating so many aspects of the ''"Quickstart - config File"'' section.
			:<ol><li> Please indicate which of the following page titles, to move the passage to, would you not ask me to consider changing:-</li>
			:* "Sway - Configuration Possibilities"
			:* "Sway - Configuration Models"
			:* "Tutorial - Sway Compositor - Configurations"
			:* "Tutorial - Sway Compositor - config File"
			::Others could then add their own sections in the future and/or enhance that one; I would add a "TODO" box stating that more configuration contributions are welcome/encouraged.</ol>
			:<ol start="2"><li>Please also indicate which section titles would you not ask me to consider changing for the passage currently called ''"Quickstart - config File"'' to place within either of those three considered pages:-</li>
			:* "Sway - A Configuration for Both Newcomers and Technical Users";
			:* "Sway - Full-Sized Views, Navigating Using Alt-Tab" (in case the use of '+' signs in a heading may throw off any future links, but alternatively, I could experiment using the "Alt+Tab" expression anyway in that subheading, seeing in a preview whether the internal link works); or
			:* "Sway with Full-Sized Views, Navigating with Alt-Tab".
			::These section titles, or similar, could also be ok by me if you would prefer them as page titles instead. I would plan to effect the move then.</ol>
			:<ol start="3"><li>However, the use of a moniker in a wiki page or section, with a title such as ''"John3-16's Sway Configuration"'' may make it a candidate to be culled by an undetermined future wiki patroller who may disapprove of pages or sections titled after one's username/moniker, I suspect, despite validity in its content and numerous hours preparing it; additionally, the appearance of a username may largely be immaterial in a title; I prefer to decline such types of page or section titles.</li></ol>
			:<ol start="4"><li>Finally, seeing how immediate help with the configuration and an overview of that file's configuration and its keybindings would be so immediately useful to '''Sway''' newcomers so as to not overwhelm them, and to help to retain a larger base of less technical newcomers to this operating system, I strongly suggest that a link to that new page be created not out of immediate sight, deep down in the ''See also'' section, but within the [[Sway#Sway_config_File\|'''Sway config File''' introductory passage]] itself (three out of four wiki links on '''Sway''' in the ''See also'' section currently examine {{ic\|config}} content), such as with the following passage additions – and one word change, from ''and'' to ''so'' – currently highlighted in italics for quick spotting in this talk:

			::::Read through it to learn the default keybindings. ''There are configurations and tips for this {{ic\|config}} file [LINKTONEWPAGE\|elsewhere in this wiki] as well as in the [[Sway#See_also\|See also]] section. Furthermore,'' Sway's configuration is mostly backward compatible with that of i3's, ''so'' if you are looking for a solution for a specific issue, you could ''alternatively'' try checking whether it hasn't been provided for the i3 window manager.

			::The passage considered to be moved advances different configurations (see its different 'optional' passages), so the use of plural is not unjustified.</li></ol>

			:If none of my page titles or none of my section titles are acceptable in your view, please enact the move yourself, respecting my statement about the employment of a moniker/username. Wiki content could alternatively remain as is or moved if and when further configurations for the {{ic\|config}} file were to surface in the future in this wiki e.g. in a dedicated configuration page. Regarding the useful idea of linking to dotfiles, you and others, naturally, are very welcome to add them in due course; I am not inclined to publish mine (indeed, I haven't placed them online) nor to seek some. Thank you again for your extensive support of the Alpine Linux wiki. [[User:John3-16\|John3-16]] ([[User talk:John3-16\|talk]]) 04:28, 13 October 2025 (UTC)

Prabuanand: /* Sway#Quickstart_-_config_File */ new section

2025-10-10T03:18:09Z

Sway#Quickstart_-_config_File: new section

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	== Environmental Variables ==		== Environmental Variables ==
	Amended {{ic\|dbus-update-activation-environment}} variables as per [https://github.com/swaywm/sway/wiki#systemd-and-dbus-activation-environments upstream wiki]. This line might be universally applicable if using '''dbus''' (possibly not for {{Pkg\|dbus-broker}}), so required variables could be mentioned, say, in a more general ''Environment Variables'' section, before the [[Sway#PipeWire_and_Screensharing\|Pipewire and Screensharing]] section.[[User:John3-16\|John3-16]] ([[User talk:John3-16\|talk]]) 18:21, 7 October 2025 (UTC)		Amended {{ic\|dbus-update-activation-environment}} variables as per [https://github.com/swaywm/sway/wiki#systemd-and-dbus-activation-environments upstream wiki]. This line might be universally applicable if using '''dbus''' (possibly not for {{Pkg\|dbus-broker}}), so required variables could be mentioned, say, in a more general ''Environment Variables'' section, before the [[Sway#PipeWire_and_Screensharing\|Pipewire and Screensharing]] section.[[User:John3-16\|John3-16]] ([[User talk:John3-16\|talk]]) 18:21, 7 October 2025 (UTC)

			== Sway#Quickstart_-_config_File ==

			Dear [[User:John3-16\|John3-16]], Thanks for the [[Sway#Quickstart_-_config_File\|detailed guide]] to configure sway for users coming from traditional DE's like [[Xfce]]. You may want to consider moving this content to a new page with a suitable title and link it back here. This is also a very good candidate to be added as a standalone entry in [[Tutorials_and_Howtos]] with so much useful information. Also consider adding links to sample dotfiles.(if available).
			Separately, I have also been thinking of ways to capture sample dotfiles here in wiki using templates, but not been successful yet. -[[User:Prabuanand\|Prabuanand]] ([[User talk:Prabuanand\|talk]]) 03:18, 10 October 2025 (UTC)

John3-16: Amended dbus-update-activation-environment variables as per upstream wiki - github.com/swaywm/sway/wiki#systemd-and-dbus-activation-environments ; maybe the line should be addressed before Pipewire and Screening, as it is required notwisthanding.

2025-10-07T18:21:01Z

Amended dbus-update-activation-environment variables as per upstream wiki - github.com/swaywm/sway/wiki#systemd-and-dbus-activation-environments ; maybe the line should be addressed before Pipewire and Screening, as it is required notwisthanding.

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	[[User:Sertonix\|Sertonix]] ([[User talk:Sertonix\|talk]]) 11:50, 29 February 2024 (UTC)		[[User:Sertonix\|Sertonix]] ([[User talk:Sertonix\|talk]]) 11:50, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

			== Environmental Variables ==
			Amended {{ic\|dbus-update-activation-environment}} variables as per [https://github.com/swaywm/sway/wiki#systemd-and-dbus-activation-environments upstream wiki]. This line might be universally applicable if using '''dbus''' (possibly not for {{Pkg\|dbus-broker}}), so required variables could be mentioned, say, in a more general ''Environment Variables'' section, before the [[Sway#PipeWire_and_Screensharing\|Pipewire and Screensharing]] section.[[User:John3-16\|John3-16]] ([[User talk:John3-16\|talk]]) 18:21, 7 October 2025 (UTC)

Sertonix: What happend?!

2024-02-29T11:50:16Z

What happend?!

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	: Agreed. I fixed that section to use Sway config instead. [[User:Quq\|Quq]] ([[User talk:Quq\|talk]]) 23:59, 23 February 2024 (UTC)		: Agreed. I fixed that section to use Sway config instead. [[User:Quq\|Quq]] ([[User talk:Quq\|talk]]) 23:59, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

			== What happend?! ==
			What happend here: https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/w/index.php?title=Sway&diff=prev&oldid=26436

			The summary and what changes I see differ drastically:

			Summary: 'add details about seatd, elogind and optional greeter'.

			Changes: removal of the initial description, removal of the 'see also' section, removal of the template usage, removal of information that gives users the possibility to decide what they want

			After a bit of searching it seems that the Sway article content has been replaced with the content of 'Sway_on_Laptop' without merging the improvements done to the Sway article.
			https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/w/index.php?title=Sway_on_Laptop&diff=next&oldid=26445

			Can we please recover the lost changes?

			[[User:Sertonix\|Sertonix]] ([[User talk:Sertonix\|talk]]) 11:50, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Quq: re

2024-02-23T23:59:18Z

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	Editing evdev config is far beyond the article scope...		Editing evdev config is far beyond the article scope...
	–[[User:zcrayfish\|zcrayfish]] <small>([[User talk:zcrayfish\|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/zcrayfish\|contribs]]•[[Special:EmailUser/zcrayfish\|send email]])</small> 20:13, 20 February 2024 (UTC)		–[[User:zcrayfish\|zcrayfish]] <small>([[User talk:zcrayfish\|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/zcrayfish\|contribs]]•[[Special:EmailUser/zcrayfish\|send email]])</small> 20:13, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

			: Agreed. I fixed that section to use Sway config instead. [[User:Quq\|Quq]] ([[User talk:Quq\|talk]]) 23:59, 23 February 2024 (UTC)