Talk:Include:Upgrading to Edge - Revision history

Prabuanand: fixed sentence

2025-11-28T16:26:18Z

fixed sentence

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	:As you may have also worked out, the state of the usr-merge will vary for several releases, with v.3.23 having the same usr-merge state as edge currently has; while v.3.24 may require opting-out of usr-merge instead – I haven't looked into whether this is definite – etc., and therefore, just as a heads up, although you may have already anticipated this, some wiki contributions in the future will have to describe the state for each new Alpine Linux versions in due course.		:As you may have also worked out, the state of the usr-merge will vary for several releases, with v.3.23 having the same usr-merge state as edge currently has; while v.3.24 may require opting-out of usr-merge instead – I haven't looked into whether this is definite – etc., and therefore, just as a heads up, although you may have already anticipated this, some wiki contributions in the future will have to describe the state for each new Alpine Linux versions in due course.
	:Please note that the masking instruction may be best expressed using single quotes, as in the nag message ('!usr-merge') so as to prevent an unintended shell interpretation of the exclamation mark (having looked into this, the single quotes help to avoid other meanings in certain Unix shells, such as '!' possibly being interpreted as 'history expansion' if the user was effecting the command in a bash shell, as opposed to '!' meaning 'negation of installation' here). I hope to write a section on '''Masking packages''' in or after Alpine Package Keeper wikipage's [[Alpine_Package_Keeper#Package_pinning\|Package pining]] section highlighting this point about using single quotes and other points hopefully fairly soon. Let me know what the passage might be named and its location, in your preference. [[User:John3-16\|John3-16]] ([[User talk:John3-16\|talk]]) 08:39, 28 November 2025 (UTC)		:Please note that the masking instruction may be best expressed using single quotes, as in the nag message ('!usr-merge') so as to prevent an unintended shell interpretation of the exclamation mark (having looked into this, the single quotes help to avoid other meanings in certain Unix shells, such as '!' possibly being interpreted as 'history expansion' if the user was effecting the command in a bash shell, as opposed to '!' meaning 'negation of installation' here). I hope to write a section on '''Masking packages''' in or after Alpine Package Keeper wikipage's [[Alpine_Package_Keeper#Package_pinning\|Package pining]] section highlighting this point about using single quotes and other points hopefully fairly soon. Let me know what the passage might be named and its location, in your preference. [[User:John3-16\|John3-16]] ([[User talk:John3-16\|talk]]) 08:39, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
	::Dear [[User:John3-16\|John3-16]], Thanks for the reminder about including single quotes. I've fixed it. Based on the latest discussions on this topic, i presume usr-merge may happen before the target(v3.29) date~~, once~~ apk-tool is suitably modified ~~and until then~~, this will ~~continue to~~ remain only in edge. Please correct me, if any such moving of content is unwarranted. '''Package exclusion''' or '''Excluding packages''' are also potential name(s) for heading, as the behaviour in apk might be different from masking feature of other distributions . Please feel free to ~~post it under~~ a heading of your choice. I've submitted a [https://github.com/alpinelinux/apk-tools/pulls PR] to ~~include~~ this in official man page.		::Dear [[User:John3-16\|John3-16]], Thanks for the reminder about including single quotes. I've fixed it. Based on the latest discussions on this topic, i presume usr-merge may happen even before the target(v3.29) date. Until apk-tool is suitably modified, this usr-merge will remain only in edge.
			::Please correct me, if any such moving of wiki content is unwarranted and thanks for your understanding.
			::'''Package exclusion''' or '''Excluding packages''' are also potential name(s) for heading, as the behaviour in apk might be different from masking feature of other distributions. Please feel free to use a heading of your choice. I've submitted a [https://github.com/alpinelinux/apk-tools/pulls PR] to document this feature in official man page.

Prabuanand: thanked John3-16 for single quotes and replied about other topics

2025-11-28T16:06:12Z

thanked John3-16 for single quotes and replied about other topics

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	:As you may have also worked out, the state of the usr-merge will vary for several releases, with v.3.23 having the same usr-merge state as edge currently has; while v.3.24 may require opting-out of usr-merge instead – I haven't looked into whether this is definite – etc., and therefore, just as a heads up, although you may have already anticipated this, some wiki contributions in the future will have to describe the state for each new Alpine Linux versions in due course.		:As you may have also worked out, the state of the usr-merge will vary for several releases, with v.3.23 having the same usr-merge state as edge currently has; while v.3.24 may require opting-out of usr-merge instead – I haven't looked into whether this is definite – etc., and therefore, just as a heads up, although you may have already anticipated this, some wiki contributions in the future will have to describe the state for each new Alpine Linux versions in due course.
	:Please note that the masking instruction may be best expressed using single quotes, as in the nag message ('!usr-merge') so as to prevent an unintended shell interpretation of the exclamation mark (having looked into this, the single quotes help to avoid other meanings in certain Unix shells, such as '!' possibly being interpreted as 'history expansion' if the user was effecting the command in a bash shell, as opposed to '!' meaning 'negation of installation' here). I hope to write a section on '''Masking packages''' in or after Alpine Package Keeper wikipage's [[Alpine_Package_Keeper#Package_pinning\|Package pining]] section highlighting this point about using single quotes and other points hopefully fairly soon. Let me know what the passage might be named and its location, in your preference. [[User:John3-16\|John3-16]] ([[User talk:John3-16\|talk]]) 08:39, 28 November 2025 (UTC)		:Please note that the masking instruction may be best expressed using single quotes, as in the nag message ('!usr-merge') so as to prevent an unintended shell interpretation of the exclamation mark (having looked into this, the single quotes help to avoid other meanings in certain Unix shells, such as '!' possibly being interpreted as 'history expansion' if the user was effecting the command in a bash shell, as opposed to '!' meaning 'negation of installation' here). I hope to write a section on '''Masking packages''' in or after Alpine Package Keeper wikipage's [[Alpine_Package_Keeper#Package_pinning\|Package pining]] section highlighting this point about using single quotes and other points hopefully fairly soon. Let me know what the passage might be named and its location, in your preference. [[User:John3-16\|John3-16]] ([[User talk:John3-16\|talk]]) 08:39, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
			::Dear [[User:John3-16\|John3-16]], Thanks for the reminder about including single quotes. I've fixed it. Based on the latest discussions on this topic, i presume usr-merge may happen before the target(v3.29) date, once apk-tool is suitably modified and until then, this will continue to remain only in edge. Please correct me, if any such moving of content is unwarranted. '''Package exclusion''' or '''Excluding packages''' are also potential name(s) for heading, as the behaviour in apk might be different from masking feature of other distributions . Please feel free to post it under a heading of your choice. I've submitted a [https://github.com/alpinelinux/apk-tools/pulls PR] to include this in official man page.

John3-16: /* usr merge */ Agreeing on having the usr-merge section into Edge section; 'Masking packages' section anticipated

2025-11-28T08:39:08Z

usr merge: Agreeing on having the usr-merge section into Edge section; 'Masking packages' section anticipated

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	Dear [[User:John3-16\|John3-16]], based on repeated user reports in irc about system breakage due to this user-merge and discussions in this ticket {{Issue\|17624}}, i've added a warning. Since this nag appears during every package upgrade in Edge, not just when upgrading to Edge alone, i've moved the content to [[Repositories#Message_on_user-merge\|Edge]] page. I have also removed content found elsewhere, so that [[Repositories]] page has minimal, but required information. Thanks again for all the updates. -[[User:Prabuanand\|Prabuanand]] ([[User talk:Prabuanand\|talk]]) 04:21, 28 November 2025 (UTC)		Dear [[User:John3-16\|John3-16]], based on repeated user reports in irc about system breakage due to this user-merge and discussions in this ticket {{Issue\|17624}}, i've added a warning. Since this nag appears during every package upgrade in Edge, not just when upgrading to Edge alone, i've moved the content to [[Repositories#Message_on_user-merge\|Edge]] page. I have also removed content found elsewhere, so that [[Repositories]] page has minimal, but required information. Thanks again for all the updates. -[[User:Prabuanand\|Prabuanand]] ([[User talk:Prabuanand\|talk]]) 04:21, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
			:Thanks for your help; it is a good idea to have the usr-merge section directly into the Edge wiki section, as you have arranged.
			:As you may have also worked out, the state of the usr-merge will vary for several releases, with v.3.23 having the same usr-merge state as edge currently has; while v.3.24 may require opting-out of usr-merge instead – I haven't looked into whether this is definite – etc., and therefore, just as a heads up, although you may have already anticipated this, some wiki contributions in the future will have to describe the state for each new Alpine Linux versions in due course.
			:Please note that the masking instruction may be best expressed using single quotes, as in the nag message ('!usr-merge') so as to prevent an unintended shell interpretation of the exclamation mark (having looked into this, the single quotes help to avoid other meanings in certain Unix shells, such as '!' possibly being interpreted as 'history expansion' if the user was effecting the command in a bash shell, as opposed to '!' meaning 'negation of installation' here). I hope to write a section on '''Masking packages''' in or after Alpine Package Keeper wikipage's [[Alpine_Package_Keeper#Package_pinning\|Package pining]] section highlighting this point about using single quotes and other points hopefully fairly soon. Let me know what the passage might be named and its location, in your preference. [[User:John3-16\|John3-16]] ([[User talk:John3-16\|talk]]) 08:39, 28 November 2025 (UTC)

Prabuanand: explained the rationale on moving the content to John3-16 as he created this content

2025-11-28T04:21:42Z

explained the rationale on moving the content to John3-16 as he created this content

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	Any reason for this page? I think the content should be copied to https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Edge and this page deleted. --[[User:Encode\|Encode]] ([[User talk:Encode\|talk]]) 05:53, 26 June 2022 (UTC)		Any reason for this page? I think the content should be copied to https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Edge and this page deleted. --[[User:Encode\|Encode]] ([[User talk:Encode\|talk]]) 05:53, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
	:Ah so it looks like this is basically Templates. --[[User:Encode\|Encode]] ([[User talk:Encode\|talk]]) 20:44, 26 June 2022 (UTC)		:Ah so it looks like this is basically Templates. --[[User:Encode\|Encode]] ([[User talk:Encode\|talk]]) 20:44, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

			== usr merge ==

			Dear [[User:John3-16\|John3-16]], based on repeated user reports in irc about system breakage due to this user-merge and discussions in this ticket {{Issue\|17624}}, i've added a warning. Since this nag appears during every package upgrade in Edge, not just when upgrading to Edge alone, i've moved the content to [[Repositories#Message_on_user-merge\|Edge]] page. I have also removed content found elsewhere, so that [[Repositories]] page has minimal, but required information. Thanks again for all the updates. -[[User:Prabuanand\|Prabuanand]] ([[User talk:Prabuanand\|talk]]) 04:21, 28 November 2025 (UTC)

Encode: Formatting change

2022-06-26T20:57:47Z

Formatting change

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	Any reason for this page? I think the content should be copied to https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Edge and this page deleted. --[[User:Encode\|Encode]] ([[User talk:Encode\|talk]]) 05:53, 26 June 2022 (UTC)		Any reason for this page? I think the content should be copied to https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Edge and this page deleted. --[[User:Encode\|Encode]] ([[User talk:Encode\|talk]]) 05:53, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
			:Ah so it looks like this is basically Templates. --[[User:Encode\|Encode]] ([[User talk:Encode\|talk]]) 20:44, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
	Ah so it looks like this is basically Templates. --[[User:Encode\|Encode]] ([[User talk:Encode\|talk]]) 20:44, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Encode: understanding why this page is here

2022-06-26T20:45:15Z

understanding why this page is here

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	Any reason for this page? I think the content should be copied to https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Edge and this page deleted. --[[User:Encode\|Encode]] ([[User talk:Encode\|talk]]) 05:53, 26 June 2022 (UTC)		Any reason for this page? I think the content should be copied to https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Edge and this page deleted. --[[User:Encode\|Encode]] ([[User talk:Encode\|talk]]) 05:53, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

			Ah so it looks like this is basically Templates. --[[User:Encode\|Encode]] ([[User talk:Encode\|talk]]) 20:44, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Encode: Duplicate text

2022-06-26T05:54:19Z

Duplicate text

New page

= Duplicate text =
Any reason for this page? I think the content should be copied to https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Edge and this page deleted. --[[User:Encode|Encode]] ([[User talk:Encode|talk]]) 05:53, 26 June 2022 (UTC)